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Jun 5, 2020 21:00:07 GMT
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Jun 7, 2020 13:32:32 GMT
Post by Jinxtengu on Jun 7, 2020 13:32:32 GMT
What is?
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Jun 7, 2020 13:40:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 13:40:48 GMT
Vukodlak
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Jun 7, 2020 14:27:22 GMT
Post by Jinxtengu on Jun 7, 2020 14:27:22 GMT
Why? It's been full moon lately.
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Jun 7, 2020 14:42:38 GMT
Post by Jinxtengu on Jun 7, 2020 14:42:38 GMT
I think that Jiangshi are pretty cool. Hey Macabre, do you believe in such creatures?
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Jun 7, 2020 16:52:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 16:52:58 GMT
Strange, but I don't remember him looking so distorted in the original game... I believe in Eastern kind of vampires too - Jiangshi, Yasha and other scary fellows. Tengu too, I suppose There's more to life than we are forced to "know". Strange creatures exist in many places, otherwise there wouldn't be any of these stories and myths. Also everyone, please post some nice horror-themed pictures in this thread if you want!
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Jun 14, 2020 2:55:58 GMT
Post by Jinxtengu on Jun 14, 2020 2:55:58 GMT
Kimberly Kubus was somewhat obsessed with being a vampire. He was convinced that vampires were real and could fly through the air and do stuff like that. I seem to recall him mentioning something about drinking the blood from a dog at one point, it was around the time he made his animal killer game. I think that was related.
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Jun 14, 2020 13:11:03 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 13:11:03 GMT
I still can't shake off the feeling that he was embraced by vampires in 2014 and is now walking among them.
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Jun 18, 2020 7:30:06 GMT
Post by January0 on Jun 18, 2020 7:30:06 GMT
Scary, scary... distorted faces always scared me bad, they still do, I actually made myself jump while getting this screenshot from a Local 58 video. This has to be a common fear, but I can't seem to remember what about it makes it so scary to people.
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Jun 18, 2020 9:01:47 GMT
Post by Jinxtengu on Jun 18, 2020 9:01:47 GMT
I still can't shake off the feeling that he was embraced by vampires in 2014 and is now walking among them.View Attachment Vampire? more like Wampire. Kubus is most certainly among the undead now. I imagine you'd have to be careful who you'd be making undead tho, if that was your prerogative, because then your stuck with that person being a prominent fixture, always coming up again and again. And if they are annoying, I tell you that's hell. I remember I made that mistake one time a while ago.. doh! I mean hey, I'm joking of corpse. Don't you think many of these mythologies are simply explaining, for instance medical disorders, before there was enough of an understanding of the underlying causes of them? For instance rabies, or epilepsy being a form of possession? Yeah blurry photos can be spooky. My ex took this one of me a few years back. I Looks like leather face or somthin hehe:)
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Jun 18, 2020 16:33:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 16:33:20 GMT
I have an urge to make a complete VTM character sheet based on Kubus... I heard the the 5th edition sucks immensely though, so it has to be based on the classic if it ever comes to this.
He attracted their attention long ago. How is he doing in his new un-life, I wonder...
Mythologies... yes, most are probably just early descriptions of various medical conditions. I won't call that inferior understanding, but rather a different way to perceive the various ailments. However, I am also sure that not all of such stories have a readily available rational explanation. People still didn't manage to disprove some things, and the more riddles are solved, the more fascinating the unsolved mysteries become...
Blur and distortion - yes, I think the warped visages are among the scariest things. I kind of like the blurry effect on the photo Jan posted, though it still gives me the creeps. And Jinx's image is the top horror!
My guess is that we humans are afraid of uncertainty and chaos, hence everything out of our ordinary structured reality can spook us deeply.
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Jun 19, 2020 4:08:02 GMT
Post by Jinxtengu on Jun 19, 2020 4:08:02 GMT
I'm sure he's doin alright, I see him in my dreams occasionally. Hey here's a crazy modern mythology or creepy pasta that I came up with right here. What If Kubus discovered the following; He may have mixed the logic of computer games with reality. Perhaps he thought that a persons vitality is displayed something like a health bar and a numerical digit. Every time a person takes drugs, this drains their health, eventually killing them (be means of an OD). But if you took just the right amount of drugs, so it didn't kill you, but you reached 0% health you would become undead. In alot of ways this is closer to the Haitan and voodoo mythologies which utilized trance inducing dances and mind altering substances, and served as the basis for the original zombification mythology (which was something Kubus was always into), So if you can reach 0% without dying, and then recover from it, it causes your human status bar to glitch out. You will become healthier physically, but the digit will still always read at 0%, making you effectively undead. Also having reached the threshold between life and death, I would speculate that a person can see "beyond", which in and of itself gives them a seemingly supernatural advantage (though in reality perhaps they have merely rinsed their perceptual abilities by discarding all the clutter, clutter that people are actually *expected* to take on, as a matter of being a participant in a system that intentionally socialises the individual beneath their true capabilities. But I digress. One thing about modern vampire myths, that irritates me, is how it represents them as having really weak powers, I mean weak when you compare them to the traditional vampire mythologies of old. For instance, modern vampire myths take pains to draw a distinction between vampires and wherewolves, which is a really dumb thing to do. Vampires and Vukodlak, were originally one and the same, a vampire being able to take on the form of a bat or wolf or other forms as it so desired. I think real vampires would be more like the one from David Lynch's movie "Lost highway". At one point the protagonist is on the phone with the vampire, who is also standing right in front of him, proving that he is in two places at once, a clear breach of causality and physics, but perfectly exemplifying the point that a vampire stands outside the natural order. That is closer to the power a real vampire would hold, In my opinion, not like the characters in these dumb "tweelight" romance novels, sparkling in the sunlight and what not. Another funny thought, but in alot of media vampires are portrayed as suave, aristocratic figures, taking on the mannerisms and customs of the upper class. Has there been a vampire yet, who was like "the dude" from the big labowski? That could be amusing, like the complete inversion of the stereotype, not an arrogant or snobby individual, but a more relaxed sort.. Probably it has been done before. Anyhow, food for thoughts... hahaha
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Jun 19, 2020 15:58:47 GMT
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The theory you propose, in my opinion, fits perfectly into the way Kubus perceived reality. He was one of the very few who dared to go beyond the theatrical way of living we are all stuck in. And he also had a great sense of humour about all this!
From the scarce facts surrounding his death it seems likely to me that the cause was accidental OD. While Kubus did look depressed in the years preceding his death, I believe that he merely discovered an entire new reality which made his corporeal existence meaningless. I do not think he made a conscious effort to kill himself, his fascination with the dreamside just probably took over one day and he just sort of felt inclined to move on to this alternative world, forgetting or not caring about the consequences of this step related to his earthly body. Which I think goes well with your theory that he somehow confused or substituted the existential mechanics of this reality with something else. It could be a game reality you described, it could be the various supernatural settings he was familiar with, or it could be something altogether unique, related to his personal experiences with these beings and dimensions... Or a mixture of all this. In any case, I don't think you are far from the truth regarding his spiritual awakening and unique understanding of life (and death). Regardless, I really like your text as a creepypasta, I think Kubus would've enjoyed that as well.
I do not know why exactly, but even the saner parts of vampiric mass culture like Vampire the Masquerade made vamps pretty pathetic, cursed beings doomed to ponder their supposedly miserable existence in darkness, and while they can have pretty astonishing powers over mortals and the world in general in this setting, all these powers according to VtM lore turn out to be various damnations that stem from the time when christian god cursed Caine for the murder of his brother Abel, making him the original vampire... All this biblical lore, together with how much emphasis VTM puts on the way vampiric society works (it's full of sadomasochism of all varieties) makes it all a pretty obvious allusion to the modern (human) society with "vampires" basically being various marginals, outcasts or puppeteers and manipulators of all sorts - i.e. everyone who stays in the shadows of the mediocre majority and either "feeds" on it, or hides from it for many reasons. Pretty much, since it borrows so much from christianity, this means that despite the immense intellectuality of VtM in the end it's all a bad thing (tm), given that the self-perpetuation of society, even in its shittiest form, is the ultimate goal of christian ideology, and everyone who abstains from it is the greatest sinner simply by design. While I do not oppose this idea when it's applied to the "vampires" in the face of the oppressors, I find it suspicious as heck that they also include the lower class in that list. VtM was always known to be sort of leftist because this whole idea of comparing our society with the monstrous hierarchy of inhumane or barely humane individuals and groups does help to see through many conspiracies and lots of injustice we face in the real world. But the creators of this setting are also either afraid of something (or someone?), or stumbled upon something during their research, or have simply grown cynical - so in the end it seems they decided to go with on the worst goth cliches that the world is rotten no matter where you go and hope doesn't exist. Hence, everyone who uncovers this secret power over mundane reality, no matter how they use it - is doomed because allegedly they are all going against humanity which must be saved at all costs, even if it means supporting the very shit that is destroying it. The same weakening, "nerfing" thing is going on with other sister settings like Mage the Ascension. While the magic system is very "realistic" and certainly very elaborate there - you won't believe how pitiful the mages are in that game. It's basically "you know magic but you can't do it because the rest of the world forgot about it and nobody believes in it anymore, hence reality interferes with every spell you cast" -> "well, so you can't rely on your powers to change the world, only to the very limited degree perhaps" -> "ah, well, forget it, you can't do even that". It attracts me because I know that people who made this learned a lot about magic and are aware of lots of things, but at the same time it scares me because it seems they are actively trying to hide and suppress all this and manipulate those who play their game. Because again, christianity says magic is bad. And maybe too much cynicism.
I still love VtM and recommend anyone who still doesn't know or doesn't know much about this, make yourself familiar at least with the computer games based on it. I seriously doubt that the new "Bloodlines 2" will be that good given how everything in this world has turned into complete garbage, including the once revolutionary concepts White Wolf (the company behind VtM) came up with. Kubus evidently was really fond of VtM, even if he never played the tabletop version of it. Just like me. The thing is, the various articles and books describing the world of vampires in that game are so enlightening in and of themselves, I used to be completely absorbed in any related text I could find. These guys did uncover something, I'm tellin' ya. And since Kubus also dared to question the reality, he felt that too. He knew there was more behind it than just a bunch of texts and rules written by bitter goths and sadistic GMs trying to forgo everything more or less romantic surrounding this subculture. Funny how they ended up somewhat bastardizing the vampire image with their over-the-top cynicism just like Twilight, that everyone hates so much (including me of corpse), did with its insipid romance. But yeah, they definitely in one way or another stumbled upon the Pandora's Box. I also like VtM because they covered precisely that gap you pointed out, Jinx - lack of diverse personalities and backgrounds among the vampires. Since they basically mirrored our whole society, there are vampire punks, librarians, truckers, criminals, beggars - you name it - though the downside of it is that with such diversity you sometimes forget it's all about vampires, not people. A couple of clans are particularly monstrous and lack all or almost all human ethics though. And I must say, despite all the bitter moralizing, the humanity system in the game is pretty cool and well implemented. It's a real character trait that shows how close you are to your former human nature. Losing all humanity usually means a game over though.
Also thanks for reminding me about the Lost Highway! I really need to watch it, gotta look for it once more. Last time I searched, I couldn't find the original on P2P, and I don't want to watch it in those "funny" Russian translations popping up on trackers. Oops, I think I confused that film with The Lost Boys...
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Jan 21, 2021 4:34:52 GMT
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Post by TheDoctorCrow on Jan 21, 2021 4:34:52 GMT
I do not know if what I say is scary or not, but for me it is incredibly disgusting. In general, this is an image. The fact is that there are fruits on a regular tray: kiwi, pineapple and banana. The trick is that they look like they are made of human skin, the kiwi has hair, and the banana now looks like something. I would throw it off, but it's not so much for me to watch and imagine, and typing is incredibly awful, scary and disgusting, and it won't be pleasant for you either. And it really makes me vomit, although I saw a lot of cruel tin...
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