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Post by JumpyCat on Nov 28, 2020 1:50:15 GMT
Jinx, WTF happened?!
Why did macabre suddenly leave?
Did we neglect her? Was she just bored?
If you have her contact details (social media), then please ask her to come back.
She was a fine mod, and I enjoyed reading her posts. (I didn't read ALL of them. She had like 2,000+ lol)
I downloaded a few of her games. So, at least I have something to remember her by. 🌺──────────────────────────────────────────── Dear macabre, if you're reading this: please consider returning.
I feel like we've lost an important crew member. You were like an “OP” character in an MMO, and now you've suddenly “left the faction”.
I promise I will reply to your posts, so that you're less bored. xD
In case you've been wondering what the hell Jinx and I have been up to: I've been honing my software modeling skills (important for game design).
Jinx has drawn some sprite animations, created music, moved into a new house, and is getting his PC repaired.
Jinx and I came up with a few awesome, 'Sunfishy' game ideas.
If you come back, I promise to model some of your ideas.
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Post by Jinxtengu on Nov 28, 2020 2:36:10 GMT
I just wasn't into the conspiracy theory posts, macabre was posting. I felt like they detracted from the forums. Maybe I wasn't too polite in explaining my point of view, but that's just me. Now it seems Macabre has quit. If they want to come back then they will if not, then they won't. I'm pragmatic about these things.
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Post by JumpyCat on Nov 28, 2020 4:28:19 GMT
Thank you for the answer, Jinx.
I am relieved to know that her reason for leaving wasn't because she grew 'bored'.
Instead, she made the mistake of 'showing her power level'! Showing your power level means revealing your knowledge about topics which are deemed taboo, naughty, or just plain uncomfortable.
Normally, you only do this with people (or forums) that you trust.
macabre, you can still trust us. If you leave, who will look after our bunny witch?🐰🔮
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Post by January0 on Nov 28, 2020 5:47:19 GMT
Hi JumpyCat, I have a message from Macabre about their departure as we keep in contact outside the forum via e-mail (though I'd like to visit here more often, school and life in general just gets in the way .) I hope it clears up some of your concerns. Hi Jan, in case you don't know there's been a terrible turmoil going on
Sunfish recently. Basically, it involves me and Jinx disagreeing on
certain points - he calls me (still does) a "right winger" and
"conspiracy theorist", he attacked the "truth" thread in spam subforum
despite me not breaking a single rule (well, it was me who has written
its rules, but I always make it sure that the other mods agree with
me). Apparently what pissed him off was me posting a picture of
Rothschild and Rockefeller overlaid on top of the ridiculous "fighting
c--id disinformaion" warning that proboards pesters every moderator and
admin with on the admin panel. All I wanted is to show people the
truth (and making a little prank, yes).
I don't beleive that mentioning and discussing said "theories" must be prohibited at all costs. The idea
that "conspiracy theories" are tied to the far-right crowd is in itself
a hollow conspiracy theory, devoid of any logical basis. There is no
left and right. People from both camps can be quite toxic and bad, and
they can also be good and not notice how similar their interests are at
times. Also, contrary to what Jinx thinks about me - I do not believe
that life will not "go on".
I believe that it can go on, and it should
go on, but for that to happen people should take part in their lives
and realize what they are dealing with here. Otherwise it will not be
Life, but Existence. And no, it doesn't mean that we should do nothing
but talk about these things and amplify the poisons in our souls like
some previous members did. But such conversations should at least be
allowed to happen, and that is something I stand by.
Now, my favor is this - please tell the new members who miss me
(JumpyCat already created a thread) on my behalf, that I still love
them and wish the forums well, and for their creativity to flourish and
bring more color this grey world. However I myself can't go against my
nature by following Jinx's accusations that are so thinly veiled with
ridiculous arguments.
To jinx, I'd say this - if he believes he's pragmatic on the matter
whether I come back or not, let me be even more pragmatic - if he
believes that any mention of "conspiracy theories" is so tasteless that
it doesn't deserve even the spam section, let it be added to the
Sunfish Forum rules. Because otherwise it is just a whim, even if it's
coming from the creator. I stressed the importance of coordinating the
work between the moderators several times, but my voice was never
answered for one reason or another. Let this change.
I may come back, but if the situation is left as is, the answer is a
solid "No".
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Post by JumpyCat on Nov 28, 2020 7:14:40 GMT
Thank you for the info, Jan.
Luckily, there's no hostility between herself and Jinx, which means there's a good chance of her returning.
If she DOES return, it's gonna suck to see her post count reduced to FUCKING 0. She was like a god(dess) with her 2000+ post count LOLOLOL
I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF 2,000 THINGS TO SAY! ├┤a├┤A Ha
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Post by Jinxtengu on Nov 29, 2020 4:39:09 GMT
I never called Macabre a right winger. Some of the conspiracy theories, they were posting about, fed directly into the narrative of the alt right, and I don't want that on my forums.
I've seen people get ensnared by conspiracy theories, and It's my firmly held belief that it is a sad, waste of a persons mind, that almost always leads to a complete loss of perspective. I was trying to spare Macabre from such a dull fate, but at the end of a day it's a persons choice what they decide to focus their time on.
Anyway I think I've made my point clear enough. I don't bear any Ill will towards Macabre. I do think this seems quite egotistical on their part, and that they are being more than a bit dogmatic to call upon the "truth".
One of the most dangerous and FALSE beliefs, is to believe that there is only one truth. From talking to just a few different people you can see that this is clearly not the case, as all people believe in separate truths and realities. Truth has an element of subjectivity and is part of a scale that goes towards greater degrees of falsehood or greater degrees of truth, but truth itself is not an absolute. Well Truth, as a concept, as in the idea of Maat, is an absolute, but the "truths" that most people refer to, tend to be of the relative variety. I would be highly suspicious of any individual who claim to know "the truth". To me that smacks of egotism and sounds like some kind of power reassurance tactic, ahah that's just my bad sense of humor kicking in.
Maybe I could ask my friend KR to join the forums and then there can be a whole topic revolving around bad slime art. Perhaps that would fix the forums.
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